Learning to Snorgle

yeah, the puppy’s cute…but look at the cheeks on that kid!!

….??? Eeeeeeeeeeee! *faints*

…and that chipmunk down below (stuffy mcstuffersons?) taught the baby how to store food in its cheeks!
How sweet!!!

Aww, baby is being so gentle with the pup. How schweet!

ah, the perfect example of how a supervised snorgling can be an excellent experience for both child and pet.

and besides, the cheeks on the two of them are just too much the cute!

Um, did anyone notice that the Korean baby is trying to EAT the puppy?

They’re doing what comes naturally to each! Gives me hope.

Wow, that really made my cute day puffy cheeks for all!

**ps, that racist comment above…pretty sad-I mean can’t a baby have a moment with a pup? Ugh, sorry to bring it up, but it just sucked.

Gah! Asians have the cutest babies! Mega cheek-dom! It’s been a while since I’ve seen a baby whose cheeks are so puffalicious that they actually protrude past his mouth

Now THAT. Is precious.

oh come on everyone, both babies AND puppies first explore their world by putting everything in their mouth.

Pik 1 – the caption says “Welcome to Julia Child’s Oriental Cooking”.

Pik 2 – the kid is wearing chef’s whites.

Pik 3 – “Will this puppy fit in my medium-sized baking tin?”

Pik 4 – the left hand is clearly doing some sort of stuffing.

Pik 5 – the caption says “To determine if the meat is cooked, the neck should have the resistance of rare fillet steak.”

It’s cute, nonetheless

I was that puffy when I was a baby as well, but it slowly went away and ever since my 6th I’ve been slender, six-pack and all. So… don’t worry about the kid

I thought it did look like the kid was trying to eat the puppy, but that didn’t make it any less cute. Afterall, the puppy does kind of resemble a big marshmellow. =)

Tonberry – that’s weird, because last night I dreamt that I was eating a giant marshmellow, and when I woke up one of my pillows was missing…

Is that puppy even real? He looks like a stuffed animal or an anime dog.

Nevertheless …

*splodes from cuteness overload*

Gah! *faints in cute overload ecstacy and gets caught by the boss slacking online*

That’s IT! I’m done with cute overload. My doctor has told me that overexposure to this degree of cuteness is often fatal, so due to health reasons I can’t visit this site any longer, because with this series of photos I’m officially “cutetoxic”.

Thanks, Meg. You had me at snorgle.

http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2006/06/cuteoverload_ma.html
(C’mon, you *knew* I was gonna link that…)

I know there’s some weird rool against babies on CO, but this baby? Soooooooooooo awesomely kewt, I almost passed out! Add the puppy, then the snorgling, and it’s total Sweet Overdose!

OMG Theo – I can’t *believe* you did that. ROFL…

PS — AuntieM — ADMIRABLES ARE UGLY!

Coffee coffee coffee YAY!!!
http://www.squidgrid.com/images/misc/yay_pic.jpg

(gold star for whomever finds the new bit first)

this is just wonderful. just wonderful

Chubby babe tubby dog=bliss

Look, the comparison between Asians and dog eating jokes are getting old and quite racist.

Not unexpected but boring. If you’re going to think of insults, at least be a little more creative.

He’s not eating the baby. Just hugging him so tight, his face got nuzzled in there.

Maureen — the tumbling cat is Baffle, who I think is *second* newest.

CeeJoe — you’re forgiven because you’re busy with more felines than even the Catcave holds.

fuzzy cute doggie and chubby baby cheeks… so so cute. i’d snorgle both, simultaneously.

Ahh! Those baby’s cheeks! His cuteness is through the roof.

EEEEEEEEK!!!

*kisses the last pic over and over*

OMG. I can’t get over it. Uber-chubby human baby + uber-fluffy baby puppeh = CONSUMMATE CUTE.

Must. Have. Them. BOTH!!!

Oh, and PLEASE, PEOPLE. Can we get by without the racist/ killer baby/ whatnot comments for ONCE? This is a beautiful photo of two beautiful babies and that’s that. Get a life, yo.

That baby looks like a happy Buddha statue. I love him.

I want to know what the Korean writing says. Any Korean friends out there who can translate??

The little puppy “tasted” the baby’s handin picture three, its only fair that the baby return the favor!! Hee! Besides, what’s the kid gonna do, gum him to death? Lighten up, everyone and bask in the cuteness!

i. i. uh. schwaaaaa? i want to PEENCH baby and puppy. in a nice way. peench peench PEEEEEENCH! (crab hands)

Hey all, this is my first time posting a comment. I loved these pictures so much that I couldn’t help but make it into a desktop background. Thought I would share it with all of you. http://www.guuzen.com/snorgletogether.jpg
I hope you like it!

Yup, I’m not usually a big fan of babies, but this one is adorable.

One of CO’s best, absolutely, by far. The chunktastic baby and the Stay-Puf pup are two great tastes that taste great together. Forget baby behavior, that pup would have been in my mouth in less than a second.

AAAAHHHHHHHH my brain just exploded from the cuteness!!!!!!

that is so cute. i am going to have it keep open in a window all day, just so those cheeks can always be a click away.

T: I’m in a little late here, but regarding that link to the bebe/kitteh scandalare; for some obscure reason I was reading that very post last night: it read like the most bizarre trainwreck.

Oh – and is there a term for human baby muzzlepuffs?

Aubrey — that comment thread ought to be just about the perfect insomnia antidote. How’d it work?

Aubrey – How about nuzzlepuffs?

What I love about this picture is how seriously the baybee is taking his lessons in snorgling – “OK, so first you put your nose on the softest part, now what?”

My nephew Cooper actually had such huge nuzzlepuffs that the bottom half of his head was larger than the top. ‘Strewth. I made lots of “how did you get him *out*” jokes.

I want to snorgle the sweet bebeh and the sweet puppeh.

And pufftastic bebeh cheeks doesn’t mean the baby is chubs. I looked like I was storing nuts for the winter as a baby but was proper weight.

This may be one of the cutests pics ever!!

[shaking flask]
[pours]
…one Bunneh Creme for Aubrey.

HRH Squeak — that’s PERFECT. Nuzzlepuffs! (…even though I’m actually one of the folks who normally isn’t interested in photos of other people’s babies. Gimme fuzz and klawzz any day.)

That’s it for the sake of innocent net users CO must be reported. Only fully experinced and hardened cutologist should be exposed to these images. How many have been electrocuted from snorgling monitors

Aww! Reminds me of my sister’s baby Sam and his best friend, a bloodhound-mix puppy named Hazard. When Hazard was little (he’s still a pup, but far from little these days–he’ll be *huge*!), he and Sam would play together on the floor under the watchful eye of Mommy and/or Daddy. Sam would always try to take a bite out of one of Hazard’s wrinkles, and he’d come away with the funniest expression on his face, like “Ew! That didn’t taste good at all!” Then Hazard would give Sam a new hairstyle with his tongue.

Looks like these two are off to a great start in life together. I loves cute puppy noses and chubby babycheeks!

snorglesnorglesnorglesnorgle snorgle…

Ah luf eet!

What’s with all the racist “jokes”. Bet if it had been a baby of any other nationality none of those comments would’ve even come up. Idiots….

Anyway… on to the picture….

Well.. what can I say other than.. awwwww *snorgles*

I want to hug those cute little babies so bad!

And Raquel, thanks for the desktop, I love it!

GUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

SOFT!

I’ve always wondered where on the main site does it say Cute Overload is strictly animals?

hrh.squeak – I’m tewtelly with you on the neices/nephews! Got a boatload o’ dem too. Visits are nice, but I’ll stick my fuzz babehs.

I just want to roll around on the floor with these two guys!

Yawn, I guess CUTEOVERLOAD IS NOT immunue to racist idiots. They keep using the same “Korean eat dogs joke.”

((((This series of prosh pics moved me to touched tears!
Incredibly sweet!))))

4th pic down- what was the name of that flying dog in The Neverending Story? I mean, c’mon!

Ooops… That last post was to Jackie *blush* Sowy!

TJ — yeah, no joke.
http://plousia.blogspot.com/2006/07/bloody-dead-cow.html

(I *used* to be vegetarian for a while. Like, six years, in my 20s. Sometimes I fall back on old habits.)

i thought people mentioned it looked like he was tasting the dog not because he’s korean but because it looks like he’s tasting the dog. of course, what I’m really waiting for is the people to come threaten to have the baby taken to child services because he’s pudgy or the animal needs to be protected from the baby because he could put the whole weight ofhis head on it and omgwtfbbq it could hurt the puppy. while i wait for the ridiculous arguments however, I will just lean back and bask in the super high octane level of cuteness. LOVE THIS!

I must confess that I had to look up “GYAC” but now that I have, I’m quite willing to use it for the second definition in just the right circumstance…

i definitely think a “babies” section should be made- SO… CUTE!

hrh.squeak – no doubt! When I was China, I thought if I was served dog and only found out later, that would be fine – but not beforehand.

I was just in Guatemala and ordered a seafood stew. While I knew shrimp in many parts of the world are served whole, I was not prepared. My nice stew was actually a pot of sea monsters staring back at me! Shrimp are NOT CUTE. I took a photo, picked at it a bit and decided I wasn’t as hungry as I thought I was.

Adora-babe-puppy!

And no, all you commentroversialists – Baby is NOT trying to eat Puppy! Baby is obviously a future musician and is trying to PLAY Puppy, like a harmonica or an ocarina. (And Puppy is just “playing along”. )

Here’s the text of the article for anyone who missed it, and who wants a recipe for Guinea Pig a la Mode (only kidding

The first thing Fernando Escobal hears when he steps
out of his small office at the National Agrarian
Research Institute in Peru’s northern Andes is a
chorus of chirps. The sound comes from thousands od
guinea pigs held in mesh cages. They are destined not
for pet shops but for the table. Mr Escobal hopes that
they will improve the diet of many of the poorest
Peruvians.
The guinea pig, or cuy as it is known in Peru (from
its chirping cries), is a delicacy throughout the
central Andes. It was domesticated nearly 5000 years
ago. “Raise guinea pigs and eat well” enjoined an Inca
saying. Spanish colonial paintings of the Last Supper
in the cathedral in Cusco, the former Inca capital,
and in Lima’s San Francisco monastery portray christ
and his apostles feasting on a plate of roasted cuy.
The rodent is still a fixture on Andean feastdays. It
is also used by traditional healers to diagnose
illnesses. The animal is passed over a sick person,
and then split open and examined for clues to the
disease.
Peruvians already get through 22 million guinea pigs a
year. Mr Escobal and his team hope to persuade them
that the cuys should not be kept for special
occassions but eaten far more regularly. To that end,
they have developed some new breeds. On July 16th,
they launched a new super-cuy, known as Peru, weighing
up to 3kg (10lbs).
Accoriding to the agriculture ministry, guinea-pig
meat has more protein and less fat than chicken or
pork, let alone red meats. Now, one cuy will easily
feed a family of four. The new breed may also interest
the discerning gourmet. Cuy tastes rather like rabbit.
In Cajamarca, it is stewed. Further south, it is split
open, flattened and fired a crispy brown. The
institute has drawn up a long list of other recipes.
The main drawback of guinea pig is that it has rather
a lot of small bones for not much flesh. Science may
at last have changed that.

TJ – Very interesting! Now I’m thinking I missed out. I’ll just have to go back.

Also interesting: http://cavyhistory.tripod.com/

Um, oops. Make that “Vietnamese”. I knew it didn’t look right…

thinker – oooh, thanks for the warning. I’m going to Vietnam in January. I had better get ready for even more culinary diversity.

For the record – I did eat some of the shrimp, plucking off their heads, peeling the legs, etc. I had to at least make a go of it as to not offend the locals. I’ll do better next time!

The kiddo is being so gentle with the pup – when my kids were that age, they treated everything in the world as if it were made of cast iron.

It looks like that kid is taking cheek stuffing lessons from the chipmuch 2 posts below!

[sigh]
I still eat cow components, chicken chunks, pig parts, etc. on a fairly regular schedule. I’m not proud. Just hungry.

ZOMG I just died. That is the cutest thing I have EVER seen.

Or Cap’n Crunch.

I agree with John Hodgman (now the Resident Expert on The Daily Show):
“Generally speaking, I think it is fair to say that I am a friend to the creatures of the earth when I am not busy eating them or wearing them.”

Enygma – “oriental” means “eastern”. Perhaps you can explain how this word is offensive. Are we no longer allowed to refer to things in terms of where the are relative to where we stand? Perhaps we should start saying things like “The frontier states during a specific period of America’s development where lawlessness was in evidence among some, but not all those who lived there,” instead of “the wild west”?
Perhaps you would like to write to the authors of the 93 cookery books that Amazon lists as having “oriental” in the title, and ask them to change the name. Are we to call the Orient Express something else?
And I don’t remember referencing a specific country – you do rather seem to have taken offence at something that doesn’t exist. Might I humbly suggest that you haul the stick out of your ass?

I love animals – fried, broiled, roasted, or barbecued. I love children, too, but I couldn’t eat a whole one.

Tony James, are you a troll? Do you have big eyes and a little pug snout? Oh, I bet you have long pink hair that sticks straight up and little round belly with a tiny little belly button!

Molls — no he’s not. Not normally.

Julie–Thank you for the amusing translation way back when. Really enjoyed it!

Theo – I agree with you on the meat-eating point. We occidentals do consume far more protein than is good for us, and cutting back would do us no harm. Would be good for the planet, too.
My use of the term “oriental” was not intended to cause offence. I am an older person for whom oriental meant just that, i.e. eastern, and could refer to food, rugs, expresses and ceramic ware. I don’t have pink hair, but will admit to a round belly (probably the result of eating too much meat).
However, the propensity of people to assume offence without first ascertaining that offence was meant does rather annoy me. It seems that we’re all becoming just a teensie bit oversensitive.
Let us take our cue from the Dooneses – if I put my foot in your ear by accident, let it be interpreted as such.
If, on the other hand, one of the Dooneses gets loaded, gets behind the wheel, and then launches a tirade of abuse at the arresting officer, then that’s a different scenario altogether.

And chocolate chip cookies.

Just thought I’d add that.

I must admit, although I can’t say I use the word often, I was not overly aware of the unPCness of the word “Oriental” – not in the way of “coloured”, in any event. I must remember to ask an Asian colleague of mine tomorrow.

I went definition-hunting and the what follows seems to sum it up well for both “sides”. Live and learn, and realize that our dear pal TJ meant no harm:

Usage Note: Asian is now strongly preferred in place of Oriental for persons native to Asia or descended from an Asian people. The usual objection to Oriental meaning “eastern”is that it identifies Asian countries and peoples in terms of their location relative to Europe. However, this objection is not generally made of other Eurocentric terms such as Near and Middle Eastern. The real problem with Oriental is more likely its connotations stemming from an earlier era when Europeans viewed the regions east of the Mediterranean as exotic lands full of romance and intrigue, the home of despotic empires and inscrutable customs. At the least these associations can give Oriental a dated feel, and as a noun in contemporary contexts (as in the first Oriental to be elected from the district) it is now widely taken to be offensive. However, Oriental should not be thought of as an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. As with Asiatic, its use other than as an ethnonym, in phrases such as Oriental cuisine or Oriental medicine, is not usually considered objectionable.

jaypo – The Omnivore’s Dilemma is next on my library holds list! Great minds think alike. Awaiting it eagerly.

Aubrey, funny you should mention chocolate chip cookies. I just got back from the grocery store with a box of same from the bakery and ate two. (Put the rest in the freezer to keep from eating twenty-two for dinner.)

As an educated guess, I’m thinking “Oriental” as meaning “Eastern” has fallen out of favor with some because it was based on a map with Europe in the middle and where certain peoples lived with relation to Europe as the center of everything. It’s kind of cool to look at other maps and see who’s east to who when the world is flipped a bit. A friend of mine had to wait for a trip to Hong Kong to be able to buy a world map where Asia what in the middle.

I’ve seen such a map before Laurie C – pretty neat. I know it wasn’t online though, so I can’t direct you anywhere.

LC–cheesh, stop with the synchronicity already. I have a book called The Map Book on my desk at work (I work in an academic library). Every page, arranged chronologically, has a map from a different time period. So interesting! It’s big though and I couldn’t bring it home with all the zillions of other books I have.

Oh, also–I think the way we as English speakers use the word Oriental is probably derived from the French word for “Eastern,” which is “Oriental,” though we never adopted “Occidental” to mean “Western.” Teej, do they use that in Yurp? Not in the States unless in old travel books.

Looks like an instinctive snorgle to me! Baby and puppy have identical huge cheeks – I think they were drawn together magnetically.

I really think this may be the cutest thing I have ever seen. Seriously.

I don’t get the logic of maps that portray countries that are not in the “middle” as being in the middle. On a map that shows the Pacific region in the middle, the United States would appear to the east of Japan, when clearly it isn’t. Having Yurp in the middle means that the International Date Line is on the far right. The New York is 13 hours behind Tokyo, so it must be west of Tokyo, assuming that the sun is immune to the forces of political correctness, no?

Imagine what a Hopi map would look like…their concept of time being more “vertical” than linear. If I’m not mistaken, they’re maps are completely incomprehensible to our Western linear minds.

LOL, arbed!

“If, on the other hand, one of the Dooneses gets loaded, gets behind the wheel, and then launches a tirade of abuse at the arresting officer, then that’s a different scenario altogether.”

Tsk tsk… you’ve been backsliding, TJ. Click away from CNN, come back to CO where even the pricklies are wuvvabul. Bad things happen in the news.

[currently in pizza coma... IQ halved...]

[unintelligble gargling noise]

You mean CNN doesn’t stand for Cutie Nyam Nyam? *That’s* where I’ve been going wrong – I’ve been watching it for 72 hours straight and there haven’t been any kittins.

[snort] LOL, Arbed.
Urkel.
Urkel.
Urkkk-k-k-k.

GASP

I hope that one day I’ll have a kid this cute, and a puppy to go with it. But I may call in for back-up in caring for both of them at the same time. At least it looks like the puppy is young enough to be with Mummy, and thus doesn’t need QUITE as much attention from humans yet…

Cheeky Poofs! Kickass!

[shivers]
[curls into fetal position around Doones]
[pulls pizza up over head]

that’s the mystery of Aubrey.

I think I recall once in junior high school being shocked when a teacher revealed… (not not that) … a map that to us looked “upside down” with Australia very prominently placed. His point was that North=”up” is an arbitrary designation, and it doesn’t HAVE to be that way. I think the lesson was meant to teach us about “not following the crowd” or “don’t do drugs” or something… but all I remember is the map, and how cool it was.

All hail the Peters Map!
http://www.petersmap.com/
(Now, if they would just turn it south-side-up…)

The only problem with this baby is that, in half an hour, he’ll be hungry for another puppy.

Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em!

Laurie – all well and good though it is to turn a map “upside down”, the thoughtless cartographers have neglected 2 things:

1. By turning it upside down all the people would fall out of the top of the countries and end up in Greenland, Siberia, and Canada, which would get very crowded.

2. It would totally ruin the career of Australia’s Men at Work, who would have to rework their classic Land Down Under. “I come from a land up over, where Dooneses frolic in clover” doesn’t really have the same ring to it.

The Men at Work, much as I like them, will have to take care of their own lyrical interests.

But I confess it would be kind of cool to see some of the southern constellations for a change…

TJ: Men At Work could be inconvenienced, but it would have been worse if they had been Men Without Hats

LC: Got milk?

An abomination, Laurie, at least with choc chip cookies.

Squee! MomCat let the Tuxedo Horde within 7-8 feet of me during their sunset rompage.

Not anymore.

ack, mixed signals, can’t cope…

“LOLLERMAN! TO THE ROFFLECOPTER!”

AmyH — um no. That would not be a record. The *other* chompy baby post holds that dubious honor.

Man I cannot stand pee cee liberal thugs…I see we have some of them on this board!!

For peoples information, in some Oriental cultures, eating of dogs is commonplace….just like we eat cows and pigs…

IT IS not racist to point this out and makes some lighthearted jokes about it….

Many Hindus are digusted by us in North America that eat cows…so what …let them be disgusted…I could carealess what they think….

And I sure people in the Near East don’t care that we are appalled that they eat pooches….I don’t like it but is common place in some societies!!

Freakin pee cee fascists….get a life….

Hokey Smokes! 1193? I had no idea. I’ll have to go back someday when I have the urge to watch a train wreck or 40-car pile up and read all of it.

Who knew mixing baby babies and fuzzy babies would produce such a volatile chemical reaction? Okay, probably anyone with an inkling for pyschology and/or hysterical safety paranoias.

Also – Lurker: Photos PLEASE.

Share the squee.

Aubrey – I know you just read it again, so I’ll trust your judgement. I’ve been through enough myself in one life to know when to listen to the wise warnings of others.

The “Baby Chomps Kitty’s Tail” shall now and forever be verboten in the effort to save what sanity I have. So much new commentroversy brews over seemingly innocuous posts that my ‘NASCAR crash urge’ will always be satisfied.

I’m also trying to not smack the Not Cuters with my cookies. Must find something less appealing to launch. Maybe Theo can urkel something up…

PiePo – chomping on animals is a constant theme around here. The actual baby/person doing the chomping in any instance is ancillary.

I’m asian and the eating dog comment didn’t strike me as racist AT ALL. Just give it up and enjoy the cuteness! Snnnnnnnnoooooooooooorggggggle!

FOAD TJ. Not all Asians eat dogs, practice martial arts, or whatever you’re thinking in your little brain. I have to agree with Lisa; if this baby were a different nationality, none of these nasty comments would have shown up.

Aubs, I have just exhorted Mr. Lurker to put up the latest HordePix.

Actually I sorta waved my arms around and blurbled “New kitty pitchurs — computer!” Luckily, he is fluent in Me.

MomTux had a heckuva time rounding all the little ones up after that adventure. “Rrrrt? Rrrrt? RRRRT DAMMIT!”

Okay, I got the quote a little wrong – but still a good listen.

Oh, AmyH, I love Andrei Codrescu…

And I can’t believe no one’s giving me grief over my tacky “hungry for another puppy in half an hour” comment. Come on, people! Where’s your self-righteous indignation?

And youall wonder why Meg doesn’t post pictures of babies; the last one crashed the bandwidth. Yeeesh. Cute – it yam what it yam and that’s all what it yam.

Blimey – sorry that was a very long post I will try to resist posting in future – apologies – btw – very cute pics

Oh dear!
My first thought on seeing the pictures (double snorgle heaven, baby in one arm, puppy in the other!) was “Peace on earth at last! What could be better that a beautiful baby and a beautiful pup to bring the world together in harmony and love?”

Come on people, we can do it. All together now….

I love this thread almost as much as the photos.

You think it’s wrong to want to stuff the baby in my mouth? Maybe just a nibble on the nape? No? How about a Putin on the belly?

I rarely make any comments here, I usually just enjoy the cuteness. And this is pretty darn cute. I do think this is a lighthearted joke and is in good fun, BUT some of the reactions have been very interesting. As cute and innocent as this picture seems, the dog-eating stereotype can really touch a nerve with some Asians. AND yes there can be a dark side to things that seem innocent and cute, and humor is often a very powerful way to spread racist ideas. For example, old racist cartoons, seemed cute and funny at the time, but look pretty terrible now. (Most of which are hard to find nowadays because the offending studios don’t want people to know that Bugs Bunny and Popeye were members of the KKK!)

And I don’t think this is picture is necessarily racist. But, this stereotype has been used negatively against Asians, specifically Koreans, and I have heard people make some nasty comments about Asians and eating dogs. I think there are people who don’t understand the whole dog eating thing. Because, yes, they do eat dog meat in Korea, BUT it’s not a staple of the diet, it’s a rare speciality dish, and is becoming more and more unpopular as Korea becomes more “western” and people start keeping more dogs as pets. With some people, this practice of eating dog is considered shameful.

And yes, calling someone “Oriental” is incredibly out of date, it’s like calling an African-American “colored.” But in the context of Tony’s comment, I think he got it right, because Julia Child would have called her show “Oriental” cooking.

One more little post from me – in all honesty people, do you really think it’s TJ who deserves to be the one who keeps getting mentioned when comments in this thread are deemed offensive? Please.

bun tocks

lol finn, no, that’s d’other pic.

in re: oriental vs eastern vs asian vs…

I recommend the book “Orientalism” by the late Edward Said. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/039474067X/sr=8-1/qid=1154697876/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-9274689-4989525?ie=UTF8

an analysis and deconstruction of the “Oriental”. very worthwhile and relevant 30 years after its first publication.

Hahaha, arbed, are we not all dudes? Oh maybe not…
Yes, I get what you are saying and I’m not particularly a “J’accuse” kind of person, but I guess it just made me sad to see the lengths to which many here decided to lengthily defend certain racist comments with an “intellectual” discussion on the past uses of the word ‘oriental’. The racist comment I was referring to was made by someone with a hideous commenter name and a nasty comment. Sorry, TJ, didn’t mean to single you out. You are a regular CO commenter and I don’t want to alienate you.
Cheers all!

Jaypo, the quote “Mr Leopold Bloom…: is from chapter 4 (Calypso) of “Ulysses” by James Joyce.

ain’t we all, J.Bo?

the quote came to mind because of all the talk mid-thread about animals to eat and what not.

I find it interesting when meat-eating folks refer to eats such as gibblets, kidneys, brains, etc. as “offal” and “disgusting”. I learned from my grandmother that if an animal is to be sacrificed and consumed, the least we can do is consume as much of it as possible.
in a weird way, doing so acknowledges and honors that sacrifice.

Julie,

I can’t even imagine the kind of crap you must put up with daily. and if it is like this in the Bay Area…
I hope you don’t mind me saying so, but your statement reminds me a bit of the stuff that Margaret Cho talks about in her concerts.

carry on! bristle on!

Chunkstyle – just teasing you with the “dude” thing. And I know the post of which you speak – bleah.

Julie – I completely understand your bristling. I am as white as white can be but would bristle at what you describe, as I would for any intentional degradation of person, regardless of nationality/ethnicity. Sometimes a joke is just a joke, with no malicious intentions at all, but the line can be pretty thin.

Ah, commentroversies on a Friday morning. I thought it would have been fueled by cruelty comments (“How could the parents let this happen!?!? That baby could crush that puppy!!”) – I didn’t even notice the baby was Korean.

For the record, the word “oriental” is derived from the Latin verb meaning “to rise” (oriri); “occidental” is derived from the word “to fall” (occidere). The present participles are “oriens” and “occidens”. The east is where the sun rises, the west is where it falls. What happens to the usage of the words after Latin is up to history and us.

At any rate, the pics are really effing cute. I’m waiting for more guinea pigs, though. Preferably the pet variety, not the dinner variety.

To quote something I saw before on this:

If you’re Oriental, chances are you’re a rug.

Hasn’t anybody even NOTICED the TEENY-TINY EARS!!??!! …on the puppy, that is… sooooo munchable…. squeeeeeeeeeeee!

Man it’s a busy day here, otherwise I’d expound upon Ulysses/Odysseus and hail the Return of the Semi-Conquering Finn. (Hi!)

Oh, the earse, the EARSE!

Sorry, Alexis. My post wasn’t meant to be a dig at you. It just happened to follow yours. As a matter of fact, your post wasn’t there when I started writing mine, so I didn’t even see it until after I’d posted.

It also wasn’t a dig at Julie. When she encounters attitudes like she outlined in her post, she has my blessing to punch those people in the eye.

And you need to check out the Cinna-bun in today’s newest post.

This is the cutest picture ever! it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

The cuteness has reached terminal overload. Most definitely the cutest thing I’ve ever seen ever ever ever.

Ever.

So, not trying to dwell… but I was raised to believe that “Oriental” was acceptable when used to describe an object — not a person. I’m not sure why it feels inappropriate or where that rule came from though… But also for the record, as a Korean, I was/am not offended or anything. People have always and will always have different opinions and follow different social rules. Nothing said here seemed so out of line to start pointing fingers and declaring people “racist.” Again, just my opinion.

This is just so unbelieveably cute! The baby reminds me of the 1960’s doll, Thumbelina. The puppy is soooo precious! These two are joyfully bonding in a way none of us will ever know. I hope they will be best pals for a long time!

Does this count as an example of Rule #4 (multiple species of cuteness)?

It also may not be a deliberate snorgle – maybe the weight of the baby’s cheeks dragged his head down toward the earth, puppy just in the way. I want to snorgle his cheeks, they are so cute.

enygma–You really shouldn’t speak for all Asians. Yeah, I’m Korean (who also lives in the Bay Area) and I tend to wince whenever I hear the word “Oriental” ascribed to a person (however, I think that the people who freak out whenever the word is used in relation to an object such as a rug need to get the heck over themselves); but I am also aware that in certain parts of the UK at least, Oriental does not have a negative connotation at all. Plus, my best friend (Chinese, also lives in the Bay Area) does not think that there is anything wrong with the word. So no, the word is not offensive to all Asians.

As a Korean, I do not consider the term oriental offensive. I think it’s weird when non-Asians call Asians oriental, but I think it’s mostly because I was raised that oriental is used more to describe objects, i.e. rug, food, furniture. But that’s just my opinion.

sorry to add to all these posts. these are my thoughts and i apologize if it offends anyone.

im korean and what makes me mad is how the person clearly cannot read korean and so makes it up saying “caption says:…” without even asking someone to translate it first. it may have been meant as a lighthearted joke but i cannot help but feel offended somehow, even though i use that kind of joke myself. yes i know its hypocritical but can u blame me for feeling a little defensive? by all means, the picture is an innocent baby who just happened to be korean and who like all babies wants to put things in his mouth.

as a korean, even though i dont think ill ever eat a dog, i dont look down on it. much like the people in peru, koreans were very poor and needed a protein source. nowadays, dogs are only eaten as a specialty dish because it is traditionally believed to give one strength and to improve a man’s virility.

koreans are not the only asians who accept eating dogs. chinese and filipinos do also. one of my filipino friends said she never knew other people besides filipinos ate dogs. i thought that was amazing because the “controversy” of koreans eating dogs occasionally pops up on american news. but this just shows u that u know more about ur own culture and things said about ur own people stick out more.

i hope no one minds if i clean up the translation a bit:
pic1. it’s me, Mahkneh! (the dog’s name is ‘youngest child’ in korean)
pic2. nice to meet you~
pic3. Mahkneh begs, thinking Yehjin’s (baby’s name) hand is a mother’s nipple.
pic5. what flavor are you?

What’s far more upsetting to me is the news stories this week about Chinese authorities slaughtering all the dogs in some districts en masse to contain rabies.

Story here: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/08/04/china.dogs.ap/index.html

I’ve had snails, frog, tripe, chicken feet, … my mother has in times of great financial difficulty told me to pick the dandelion leaves in the lawn for salad… if you served me dog, I’d eat it.
Cat too!

So yes, there is an American that would eat Fido or Spot.

Hindu’s don’t eat cows. That would be eating their ancestors!

So this uptightness about dogs is because we call them ‘pets’.

Would you eat your pet catfish? Or pig? When you go back into the past, many cultures ate animals that once were pets to the family. Its just that now we have the luxgury to call certain animals ‘pets’ and ‘non-edible’.

Here’s a story that can’t get any more American. “A Day No Pigs Would Die” by Robert Peck. (I was made to read this in middle school, but it makes you realize how much we take things for granted.)

Excert (not from book):
“A prolific writer of fiction for young people (Peck has written fifteen books in the last ten years), his work is rooted in the rural tradition of his boyhood. His first book, A Day No Pigs Would Die, concerns the rites of passage of a young boy growing up on a Vermont farm. The hard facts of farm life are realistically described in terse, vivid prose that has no room for sentimentality. In the book, the young hero is required to slaughter his own pet pig. Peck does not balk at the seemingly brutal necessities of a consumer world. “I can’t con readers that bacon is made by DuPont out of soybeans,” he says. “Killing hogs is honest work. My father did it. So did I. One time, at a cocktail party, I watched people ram goose liver into their maws and then announce how opposed they were to violence.” This same violence, which is often [grossly] described, has had a mixed reception among reviewers, but overall, Peck has been praised for his down-to-earth, life-is-tough attitude. A Day No Pigs Would Die was named an American Library Association Best Book for Young Adults in 1973.”

Source: http://www.edupaperback.org/showauth.cfm?authid=101

On another note, I think the baby is trying to eat the dog–or at least get it in his mouth. Of course my little brother and sister tried to eat everything. Their toys, blankets, their hands, their feet. Yeah, babies like to put things it their mouths.

I love babies… but this one? The cheeks are too much.

Cute puppy + Adorable baby + puffy cheeks = OMG! AWWWW!

I usually never post but OH MY GOOODNESS!
The baby is snorgling the puppy, babies snorgle. I have first hand experience as my youngest loves to snorgle my cat and she is gentle and they are lovely together.
I am sorry but that baby is beautiful and I want to squeeze him and love him and the puppy too. TOTAL cute overload!!

Ohmigod. Look at the muzzlepuffs on that kid! They’re both so kawaiiii! ^_^

Flurgle gurgle flop.
No other words to describe feeling.

i want to smell the baby’s smushy cheeks.

Oops… posted this under the wrong picture originally… no delete means, either. Sowwy!

‘oriental offensive to Asians’

okay… i guess every race has it (negro, afro-american, african-american, black american)…

I’ve had this discussion with Chinese foreign exchange students (you know, people who aren’t three-generations American trying to dictate what offends others of their race that’s not American-borne… you know… THOSE types.)

The impression I got was that the ‘oriental offends asians’ is a north american thing and not so much in other places…. is this true or not? There was also a student from Derbyshire (UK) that had asian descent who said that ‘asians’ in London don’t get upset over the word ‘oriental’.

Also, ASIAN connotates OTHER folks besides those we typically consider ‘oriental’. There’s more to Asia than China, Korea, et.al.

So, what’s the REAL deal? Is this just American sensibilies trying to dictate what people consider rude for the entire world? Or is this a legitimate trend from actual asian folks living in Asia and NOT in the US or Canada or London?

And, if so, has anyone asked the non-’oriental’ people how they feel about being lumped in with said ‘oriental’ people when the term “asian” is used?

I mean, do people even THINK when they decide that some words are bad and some are good?

Wow – I can’t believe some of the comments. I thought the number was unusually high because of the unusual cuteness, I never imagined dog eating jokes. Sad.

This is the cutest snorgle ever! So cute. Thanks for the steady supply of cuteness!

Cute puppy! Cute baby! Neither one are hurting each other and they’re happy being together. What cuties!

As for all the rest: There will also be some people who are more easily offended than others. And there are aways going to be people who play on the easily offended by making snide comments. And there are still others who make mistakes without meaning to harm (although the easily offended always get bothered either way).

Remember the wise old saying, “You can please some of the people some of the time but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.”

Perhaps when not eating them.

Cuddliest baby and pup..

Enough with the damn oriental arguments. It just started as a small ignorant remark and has blown up to ridiculous proportions with people pulling out info from encyclopedias even!

Just enjoy the cute images… human beings just suck at being cute the moment we open our mouths or start typing, we argue and whine too much.

Err, Linda… compared to *other* commentroversies here on CO, this one is mild.

Also, there are a bunch of peeps here who definitely *are* into grammar/usage. So some ‘em are gonna pop their heads in the door now and again, as I did above. FWIW, “Oriental” has been used a slur for a loong time, in the UK and former British colonies, at least.

korean translation:

#1: im the youngest [child]!
#2: happay to meet ya!
#3: dum-bee [pup's name] thinks yae-jin’s [baby] finger is mommy doggy
last: what flava might u be?

Well f**k my old boots, you mob do like to get on your high horse.
(Leaves in high dudgeon)

um there are people in china and korea that DO eat DOG! I don’t think it’s racist to make a joke about that?? it’s like saying Americans love mcdonalds?

Elizabeth, there are people who do (not everyone though) but some people think like, “OMG THEY ARE BABARIC SAVAGE BEASTS LETS MAKE A FAKE ORIENTAL COOKBOOK!! POOR PUPPIES!!!” And us Americans eat cute little piglets and baby cows. Pshhh. So making jokes like that are kinda racist. And I hate McDonalds with a passion.
P.s Omg….that baby and pup are SO CUTE!

Eee! The baby reminds me of my Korean-born adopted cousin, who had sweet little chubby cheeks like that as a baby. And the puppy is so cute!

international snorglefest!

ahem. its… Baby Mcjowlerson.Getting his cronshe on. Why did no one think of that before me? Im confuzzled. OMG I am speaking cute overloadese! How redonk?
lol

STOP EATING THAT SNOWBALL YOU EVIL BABY!!! I WANNA EAT IT! Well you shwwwwwweet lil’ pupsicle! I could jus’ eat chou up… bUrP!!!

They’re so cute…
But some comment are ugly..
seems quite many people think all the Kreans eat dogs easily and just realized Asian babies could be a target of ridicule easily. Please remember God made human being equal in him with his love….